[原创]一种完全可以替代现有自行车变速器的新专利市值是多少?

iamyusi

<><b>大家好,问一个很菜的问题:如果有一款比现有变速器高效(完全可以替代现有变速器),简单,廉价,轻便的新型变速器,那么如果要转让,它的转让价值应该是多少?</b></P>
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iamyusi

最近跟SHIMANO联系,有望把它卖给SHIMANO.跟SRAM也有联系,不过他们非让我搞出来模型,我那里有时间精力和金钱把它搞出来,但我绝对相信它可以替代现有变速器![em04]

iamyusi

<>SHIMANO已经给我寄了许可文件,上个周五寄的,现在还没有收到.我的设计可以使用于任何车型,山地,公路,休闲,折叠,我不太清楚BMX是什么,大概是花样车吧,就是那种表演车?也可以的.至于变速范围比现在的要多的多,如果你愿意,可以设置100个速级也可以.</P><>SRAM还在等我给他们回信呢.</P><>顺便再问一句,世界知名的大的自行车公司还有哪些,可否帮兄弟介绍几个,在这里感谢先!</P>[em04][em04][em04]

iamyusi

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>outofblue</I>在2005-6-6 21:57:00的发言：</B>

<>要模型？什么年代了</P>
<>你把思路和草图告诉我，我帮你建数模并进行运动仿真，告诉你性能参数。我的毕业设计就是这个，不过对象是机械手。</P></DIV>
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<P>这位兄弟，你用的运动仿真是那个版本，什么牌子？Pro/engineer. Wildfire?还是什么？</P>
<P>CAD我已经搞出来了，运动仿真正在进行！</P>

<P>还有个问题：SHIMANO和SRAM会不会看到我得设计之后剽窃我得发明？</P>

iamyusi

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>weber_lu</I>在2005-6-7 8:29:00的发言：</B>
100个速级？厉害的，想破脑袋也想不出那东西会是什么样子</DIV>
<>weber lu兄，等你看到那个东西之后你就会发现它其实很简单，简单到令你惊讶的地步。这也就是为什么我会有自信的说它有可能在不久的将来完全可以取代现有的变速器，将它送进历史的博物馆。在设计这个东西的时候我一直坚持这几个观点，简单，高效，廉价，健康，美感。虽然在这个东西上没有完全得到体现，但是简单，高效，廉价我基本做到了！</P>

iamyusi

唉，如果现在有钱的话，我现在就申请了！在等两个月把。再说等SHIMANO的文件过来看看再说。我咨询了专利代理公司，他们说可以申请PCT，有没有知道这是个什么东东？[em16][em09]

iamyusi

<>谢谢各位的热心支持！如果我的设计能够卖出去的话，签订合约的当天我会把它贴在这里，让大家自由品评。</P><>希望我的设计能够给大家带来便利，能够让你们的坐骑风驰电掣，在不知不觉中速度由最低档变到最高档。</P>

iamyusi

<>各位兄弟,本人绝无撒谎!现在我的设计已基本定型,只是还没有资金申请专利.等到这个月的工资下来之后我就去申请.</P><>至于我的设计是否可以取代现有变速器,这是我个人认为,如果你认为这有点水分,我承认,毕竟这是一相情愿的认为,没有经过大家的认可,而且还有点自大的嫌疑.</P><>不过我有信心它将成为未来自行车变速器市场的主流!</P>

iamyusi

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear John,</FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've promised you too that my design will work and must work better than the existing derailleur surely.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>Why won't you send your associate to meet me talking face to face?</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>As a buessinessman I think you must know what the opportunity cost means.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>You and SHIMANO are both the leader companies in derailleur.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>He who finds a wholly new entrance to the market will occupy it and smite his opponent.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>If this were true I definetly believe what you damnified is not the tavelling expenses for your sending a man to meet me,</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>that will be the market originally belonging to you and the product lines useless any more.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>It's a basic theory.</FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>In addition,I don't hope to sell my invention to Japanese.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>But on the other side I have done so much on the research.Price can prove its value.</FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm sure you know what I mean!</FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>If you still have interest on my invention,I'll make parts of it and show them to you.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>But I cann't promise you during this period </FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best regards,</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial>Allen</FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV 9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </DIV><DIV #e4e4e4; FONT: 9pt 宋体; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <a href="mailtJCHEEVER@sram.com" target="_blank" >John Cheever</A> </DIV><DIV 9pt 宋体"><B>T</B> <a href="mailtallen@minoa.co.kr" target="_blank" >allen</A> </DIV><DIV 9pt 宋体"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:44 AM</DIV><DIV 9pt 宋体"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Patented Derailleur</DIV><DIV>
</DIV><DIV class=Section1><><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2>Allen,<p></p></FONT></P><><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><p> </p></FONT></P><><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2>I’ve expressed interest in your invention. I’ve asked you to show me your invention two or three times. I’m not sure what else to do. What do you suggest as a next step?<p></p></FONT></P><P><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><p> </p></FONT></P><P><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2>John<p></p></FONT></P><P><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><p> </p></FONT></P><P><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><p> </p></FONT></P><DIV><DIV align=center class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><HR align=center SIZE=3 tabIndex=-1 width="100%"></FONT></DIV><P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>From:</FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2> allen [<a href="mailtallen@minoa.co.kr" target="_blank" >mailtallen@minoa.co.kr</A>]
<B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 06, 2005 10:52 PM
<B>T</B> John Cheever
<B>Subject:</B> Fw: Patented Derailleur</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><p> </p></FONT></P><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>Dear  John,</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> <p></p></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>I will tell you one thing that SHIMANO has sent me a contract.</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>Now I haven't seen the documents.They sent the contract out last</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>friday by registered mail.</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> <p></p></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>One more thing to tell you that my prototype has no any development.</FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>I still don't know how long it will come into being.But I absolutely believe </FONT><p></p></P></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face=Arial size=3>it will wo

iamyusi

<>楼上的说得有道理。但是我还是有点担心，申请专利之后就不能够剽窃了吗？对于这一点我不清楚，有没有通晓的朋友介绍一下，如果它在我的设计上改动一下然后再申请，那不也是白费了吗？</P><>等待指点。。。</P>[em04][em04][em09]

iamyusi

<>今天收到了SHIMANO的邮件，看了寄过来的内容，大概有十几页，全英文的，不过挺简单的；可是内容挺欺人。他说他们有自己的R&amp;D，近几年来他们从来没有过从外面买过专利，在信的最后一页还这么写着：(没有扫描仪，只好照抄了）
<>For your information
<>First,please remenber that,even if you send the necessary doc above,SHIMANO rarely adopts inventions from outside.In fact,we have not adopted any inventions from outside for recent several years in spite that we receive about tow-three hundreds inventions every year.Thus,if it is too demanding for you to fulfill all of our requirements,we do not recommend you to work so hard onthis matter by spending your time and money solely to let SHIMANO receive your invention.Of course,still,if you are eager to show your invention to SHIMANO,we are happy to review it.(瞧这是人话吗？！）
<P>Second,please do not send protorpe or other materials to explain your idea/invention.We believe the patent doc will be one and only material we should count on for our internal review because all the necessary information about your idea/invention is inclued in it.Thus we require the patent doc only and need no other material.Also,though you would like to visit SHIMANO for further explanation on  your idea/invention,we decline such visit for the same reason.
<P>Lastly,please do not give telephone and e-mail to us.Although some inventors try to call SHIMANO and explain his idea/invention over the telephone or by e-mail,we can never accept such telephone and e-mail.Thus,even if it is consuming and bothersome for you,please use a mail for communication with SHIMANO.
<P>以上为部分内容转录，的确让我泄气了一把。不过没关系，卖给老美也可以，把小日本的变速器市场冲垮，也算是一种报国吧（恶心着大家了，不好意思。不过我真的对我的设计很有信心！）希望大家到时候能够用上我的设计，轻便，快速，简单。</P>[em07][em09][em12][em11][em04]

iamyusi

<>62楼的，我的设计不是离心变径原理，也不是无级变速的，但是不他们都高级。我不是在这里卖关子，至少我是这样认为的。由于没有申请专利，所以请原谅我不能在此公开，对不起！</P><>我不打算跟SHIMANO联系了，日本人太狡猾，免得打狐不成惹的一身骚。我打算在联系几个厂家。有没有认识GIANT的朋友，我在他们的网站没有发现他们的E-MAIL地址，有知道的朋友请告诉好吗，谢谢！</P><>不知道国外现在有否类似专利，但是我想如果一旦有的话，应该有所公告，或者在市场上也可以看到。因为毕竟是一种可以替代现有变速器的专利。有哪一个厂家愿意把自己的强项藏起来让他的对手抢占市场！1而且我相信我得专利可以迅速抢占现有变速器市场。</P>[em02][em04][em05][em07][em08]